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And another... Bundled 3rd party junk.

#1 User is offline Charles Linskail

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    Posted 11 May 2011 - 04:15 PM

    Hi Marko

    Another for you TweakNow Powerpack SP1b v-3.2.2

    Bundled OpenCandy with no Opt-out on the install.

    Cheers.

    Chuck
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      Posted 11 May 2011 - 05:54 PM

      Cheers Chuck, will check that one out just shortly :good:
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        Posted 11 May 2011 - 09:17 PM

        Yep, confirmed, can't believe it but nevertheless confirmed! :blink:
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        #4 User is online James (Jim) Hillier

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          Posted 11 May 2011 - 09:47 PM

          WOW, this one is very disappointing to hear. I've always been a great fan of the PowerPack and often recommended it.

          I don't understand why a large organisation such as Tweak Now would need to use OpenCandy, let alone use it surreptitiously.

          Thanks Chuck!!
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          #5 User is offline ricksterto

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            Posted 14 May 2011 - 10:01 PM

            I just grabbed the setup, threw it into uniextractor, removed the oc temp file and modified the ISS using innosetup and rebuilt - no opencandy left over. Almost every opencandy app can be fixed this way.

            Unfortunate that we have to look now because none of these apps actually tell you that they have opencandy.
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            #6 User is online James (Jim) Hillier

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              Posted 14 May 2011 - 11:53 PM

              Thanks for the heads up Rick.

              Yes, we realise there are ways and means of dealing with OC Rick, but many users would not have the level of expertise required to go through the process described by your good self...and, in our opinion, they shouldn't need to anyway!! :)

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              none of these apps actually tell you that they have opencandy

              Yes, that's the shame of it. If the developers were open and honest about bundling OC with their software, we would deal with them more sympathetically. It's the covert nature of the bundling that we consider unacceptable.

              The bundling of OC is a relatively recent development, it's expanding and we are monitoring the situation. At the moment our policy is to continue listing freeware which is overtly [openly] bundled with OC, and merely add a warning. Those that are bundled with OC covertly [secretly] will, for the time being anyway, continue to be banned. That policy is subject to review, depending on how the situation evolves.

              Thanks again....Jim
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                Posted 15 May 2011 - 04:52 AM

                OpenCandy do stipulate that all participating developers are required to place a notice about the inclusion of OC in their terms, which most do, but it's more to do with the fact they do not offer the option to decline it's installation in the first place. It's more or less accepted that people will not read the terms of a software installation, rightly or wrongly, but any freeware which forces the install of a third-party, or in other words does not give you a simple method of declining it, will most probably not be supported by FreewareBB. The option to decline should be an obvious one and one which is built in to the install routine.
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                #8 User is online James (Jim) Hillier

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                  Posted 15 May 2011 - 08:10 AM

                  Marko, you put it much more succinctly than I. :)
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                    Posted 15 May 2011 - 02:33 PM

                    :P
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                      Posted 19 May 2011 - 07:35 AM

                      Just checked this one again after our decision not to ban software which includes OpenCandy so long as they are transparent about it and it seems they no longer use OC or at least I didn't see any recommendations - nothing on their site either to say they use OC.

                      Can anyone possibly confirm this or have I just not seen any recommendation from OpenCandy in the installer?
                      Cheers
                      Marko
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                        Posted 20 May 2011 - 12:25 AM

                        Marko - I actually installed this latest version on my daughter's laptop about 2 weeks ago. There was absolutely nothing during installation which suggested OC was bundled. OC was not mentioned at all, neither was I presented with any recommendations.

                        Unfortunately, I don't have immediate access to the laptop in order to double check (the daughter lives about 2 1/5 hours drive away).

                        I'll download on my machine and check it out....get back to you soon.

                        UPDATE:

                        Downloaded both installer and portable versions. Extracted all files using X-UniExtract; no indication of OpenCandy anywhere. I also searched across the net and could not locate any references anywhere relating to this software bundling OC.

                        Looks perfectly clean to me Marko. How did you "confirm" this freeware came with OC in the first place mate??
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                          Posted 20 May 2011 - 07:42 AM

                          I installed the software first Jimbo, low and behold up came the recommendation to install IE9 from OC, tried it again just recently and nothing!! Strange, really strange - only thing I can assume is they have stopped using OC now :blink:
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                            Posted 20 May 2011 - 08:45 AM

                            Hmmm, well I already have IE9 installed, maybe that has something to do with it. I don't think so though, as there is nothing in the installer that I could identify which suggests OC is present at all.

                            Strange indeed mate!!!
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                              Posted 20 May 2011 - 08:49 AM

                              Certainly is Jimbo, as always though, we'll be keeping an eye on it ;)
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