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User Poll: Your images belong to us now .. right or wrong?


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Poll: Your images belong to us now .. right or wrong? (10 member(s) have cast votes)

Your images belong to us now .. right or wrong?

  1. Well, I guess if we put personal information online, including photo's, we have to expect this so I'd say it's fair enough (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Although I don't agree that anyone should have the right to use my personal photo's, I understand I can't stop them but may reconsider what I upload from now (3 votes [30.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 30.00%

  3. I will be taking this very seriously indeed and will be removing personal photos that I have uploaded and thinking very carefully about what I upload from now on (5 votes [50.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  4. I will be removing all my personal photo's I have uploaded online and will not be uploading any more in the future (2 votes [20.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

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marko

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    Here in the UK, we're pretty much renowned for being the Politically Correct capital of the world, much to our own downfall, and now we have another "farce" being pushed through into law which allows people to freely download, use and even SELL your pictures if you put them online without first registering them and paying for thatprivilege!!.

    Normally, professional's or even amateur photographers would already know about copyright and how to protect their work, etc, but from my own understanding this law isn't aimed at them because they are covered, as I say, by copyright law should they wish to protect their work in that way.

    This law, in a nutshell, will cover the many hundreds of millions of people using things like Facebook (here we go again, I hear you say ... Facebook!!). Whilst not specifically mentioning Facebook or revolving around the social media site, it's obvious that the many users of site's like that will be affected because essentially what the new law means is if you upload a photo of your new born baby, anyone can take that photo and use it for almost any purpose they wish, whether for their own use or for a commercial use. The only way you can stop them is by registering the photograph yourself (which costs money) or by simply NOT uploading the photo in the first place.

    Now most people would say, rubbish, if it's a photo of me, my family, my friends or a photo of something else I took, it belongs to me, I have automatic ownership of that photo ... well, you used to, but the new law kicks that one into shape and says unless you legally register any photographs you upload online, you are giving the entire world the right to use it in any way they want, on any website they want and if they can make money from your photo's, they'll be legally able to do that too!!. Question is, who will be making a determined effort now to sift through your photo's, your families photo's and your friends photo's to put them online elsewhere and make money from them? ... welcome to the free internet we all wanted, oh and good luck with Facebook :negative:


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      FutureShock

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        I already have a personal policy against posting photos of myself or family or friends on the net. Just me.

        I like the current system as pictures are freely available. It seems to me like lawful protection should be extended in a broader way to a person's public image overall. I mean here that anyone who misrepresents me using an altered version of a photo obtained from any place should be subject to law suit. Reminds me of the 70s movie "Absence of Malice" with Sally Fields and Paul Newman. She somewhat scandalously obtains some information on him and then includes the information in a newspaper article. She won't reveal the source, and there is a big mess, when she finds out he's really not a bad person. It seems to me officials could make slander a more prominently featured protection of the law and then just leave the system the way it is.

        That still leaves the door open for copyright disputes over content for pictures used to sell commercial products. Not inferring pictures of people here, but I guess they could somehow be a part of this potentially. What if someone grabs an image and likes it so much they use it commercially as a logo for a new company? For me, this type of problem should be handled as copyright infringement in the courts, the same as cases of slander.

        Just need to make the current laws that exist moreso in plain view imo. Otherwise leave the system as it is, although some content should be moved to pay only areas of the net (again imo)...

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            I for one, have always lived by the rule that anything you put on line, becomes public domain, whether you intended it or not. If you don't want your written word or photos to to be used by others, for any reason, don't put it out there. Simple rule, and easy to follow. I think many of the younger set could benefit from this approach, given what one can see on line from them. Don't get me wrong, I totally disagree with that new law in the UK. I feel that it infringes on my freedom, and my work as a photographer. I am not a photographer by any stretch, but occassionally take a good shot that I may want to share. One wonders what special interest group influenced the UK governmant to pass such a law.



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                Why doesn't this surprise me - here in the UK we bend over backwards to help the criminals, the perverts and even the terrorists, whilst allowing others to use our personal photo's on websites for any reason - typical, absolutely bloody typical.



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                    ablaze, I know it's frustrating, but let's try and keep the politics to a minimum, particularly thecontroversialones :)


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                        As we move forward day by day, it is evident that we have to protect ourselves and possession more and more in every way possible. Laws are made and I doubt that we can change them, unless there is a world-wide revolution. If personal photographs and literature is to be protected from misuse, then copyrighting is the only way to go.

                        People will possibly share more by email with family and real friends, (if they are able to discover the current law) not 2367 Facebook 'friends'.



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                            ablaze, I know it's frustrating, but let's try and keep the politics to a minimum, particularly thecontroversialones :)

                            Sorry google, ablaze's comment wasn't political. All the main political parties support this approach. Please don't stifle fair comment!


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                                Sorry google, ablaze's comment wasn't political. All the main political parties support this approach. Please don't stifle fair comment!


                                Sorry jayesstee, I disagree, I fail to see the relevance that "perverts" and "terrorists" have to do with this discussion ... as I said in my previous statement, I know it's frustrating, but bringingcontroversialmatter such as this into a conversation only serves to take the discussion in another direction. I would not attempt to stifle fair comment, I am merely attempting to keep the topic on track, let's not confuse the two :)
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                                    A comment without prejudice :-

                                    Reading between the lines, I understand the comments from ablaze, as here in Australia the situation is similar to Britain.

                                    In the eyes of the honourable citizens, the lawmakers are treading softly on the perpetrators who are ignoring every law of the land, and punishment for their actions is merely a 'slap on the wrist' affair which allows them to continue their abuse of the law.

                                    'Perverts' could use a photo of a naked baby to sell to his perverted friends, posted by the mother in innocence to show her relatives in another State or country.

                                    'Terrorists' from other countries, in an act of inflicting terror, could use a photo of an innocent person, and alter it to show it being tortured or other decimation.

                                    In the real world, most topics can have a side-track which can lead to a more friendly world-wide range of comments and friendship with every forum member, because if we stick stolidly to the basic topic then the topic is short-winded, as ,"Do you agree with the new law to allow every man and his dog to use your photos on the Internet, Yes/No".

                                    Let the non-nasty, non- bullying, non-denigrading comments flow, they give us an insight into the thinking minds of our friends in other countries.



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                                        Here here!

                                        I will now quote the pride of Australia, Men at Work:

                                        "Do you come from a land down under?
                                        Where women glow and men plunder?
                                        Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
                                        You better run, you better take cover."

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                                        Or perhaps I shall quote Lord Byron:

                                        Be thou the rainbow in the storms of life. The evening beam that smiles the clouds away and tints tomorrow with a prophetic ray.

                                        Those who will not reason are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not are slaves.

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